Jonathan Livingston
John Harricharan Interviewing Yanik Silver
Yanik Silver: Thank you. Well, you just said something before that that I thought is interesting and, you know, we should talk on. And you said that we are meant to be healthy. And I will assume that the same way you said we are meant to be healthy, that we are meant to be rich and we are meant to be happy, Why are people and how do we get back to this natural state of where we are meant to be?
John Harricharan: Okay. Yes, that’s how we were born. We were born. We came here with certain agreements, because I do not believe we just popped up in this earth. And there are a whole bunch of my friends and people who think of it this way. Take for example, you and I have talked about Richard Bach, the author of Jonathan Livingston Seagull.
Yanik Silver: Right.
John Harricharan: I have told you about Brad Steiger, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Deepak, many of us, who feel that we have lived forever, if you will. In fact, within each and every one of us is this feeling like the Poet says, ‘A certain murmur in the soul tells of a world to be’. As travelers hear the billows roll before they reach the sea.’
So if we sit back quietly and listen, we will feel things from other times and other places, and it’s totally, totally against my thinking that let’s assume this has nothing to do with God or whichever one there is who — like a worship or a lack God or anything, it just has to do with a kind of a feeling within ourselves that if there is a God and I do believe there is a higher power, then this God has got to be really nuts…if he or she is perfect to create things that are defective, for goodness’ sakes, if I were to go to buy a DVD player and it’s defective, I’d return it. So it came to me at a very early age and from listening to some of the masters of the Far East talk, some of the Yogi masters, I thought no, we were not born defective. We were born with all the potential we could ever want or have, and that we may have existed before, which some people call past lives, I call alternate existences and so forth. It doesn’t matter what name we give to it. And so we may have agreed to come here.
For example, let us say that I and a bunch of us are traveling through the universe, no body, no physical body, but just a beautiful little points of light, if you will, a spirit that you can’t see. But we’re totally conscious. And we are passing by and one of us says to the other, “Hey, let’s stop by earth. There it is, way in the distance. It looks blue. Let’s stop by earth and see what they are up to today or these days. And it’s 21st century or 20th century.”
And we get here and we start looking at them or we somehow maybe we can help them do some little thing. I have done all these other things. And so it is somewhat like a Star Track episode. And we are born into this world with agreements where we agree that okay, I’ll be born without a leg. I will be born to a family that is going to abuse me. But during that period, I will grow and become something very special.
Who knows that Wayne Dyer, for example, was an orphan. He was in foster homes for a long time. There are so many other who were blind or deaf. They chose these things except you don’t remember when you get caught up on the earth life that you did choose it. And yet some of us say, especially me, I say that contract we signed before we came here, at the bottom of it, it says “Subject to change for any reason at anytime without any penalties.” So we can quit the game anytime we want, which means if we are perfect to start with and religions, many of them teaches that we’re not — we are a kind of a clod of clay.
And now, we’ve got a start becoming something in the potter’s hand. And some of us think that, “No, we are perfect to start with almost like the David’s statue in the stone. It’s there all the time. And all we’ve got to do is create the way, learn, grow and use the tools we have. So that that beautiful statue of David will come out or so that that beautiful part within us will come out.”
Therefore, I do not believe that disease is a natural thing for a human being. I think we are hypnotized by advertisements, by all the kinds of things we see around us, by fear, by medicine, by everything else. Who was that I was talking with and he wrote it in his book- Deepak Chopra. Deepak and I go back many, many years, to a time when people thought that that Deepak was probably a rare Chinese disease. And Deepak and I were talking about ageing and growing old and dying.
And he quoted a Greek, who said, “People grow old and die because they see other people getting old and dying.” And so it is where there is a kind of a joint energy is formed, where we are influenced by the energy around us, and we in turn influence that energy. So in our natural state, we should be healthy.
Let’s take Abraham or Moses or all the way down through Jesus into any of the other ones. Jesus saying to his mom, “Hey mom, I got to go to the drugs store, because I need some Aspirins or Abraham saying, “You know, Send out the camel boy to get me something because I’m not feeling too well.” I think many of these people were able to transcend the need for that by doing a number of very interesting things.
Number one, stilling the conversations in their minds, the longest conversation that keeps going on from the day we were born is the one we have with ourselves…
Yanik Silver: Right
John Harricharan: …Where we’re talking to ourselves every moment. So, if we can still that conversation and get into a point where we are almost in non-thinking mold, we will find that the universe will send us all the solutions we want. And then its up to us to do something with it.
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